Honest, 1st Hand Experience Review Of Renatus & Real Estate Mastery Mentors Meetup.com Group Hosted By Bob Tierney

Honest, 1st Hand Experience Review Of Renatus & Real Estate Mastery Mentors Meetup.com Group Hosted By Bob Tierney

Update 2 (01/23/15): I've written an update to this more specifically about Scott Rowe and understanding Renatus at it's core here: Scott Rowe Real Estate Scam … or not?

Update (11/21/13): Bob Tierney e-mailed me recently and asked if I could post an update about him, his local troops and what's been going on. If you're interested, read Bob's update: Bob's Progress Update At Renatus.

Searching around for networking events and groups I came across a rather large local group on Meetup.com called “Real Estate Mastery Mentors”. As an entrepreneur it's essential to connect with as many people as possible, you never know who will be able to take you to the next level! As of this writing the Real Estate Mastery Mentors group stands at 291 which is rather impressive, so I thought “heck why not. Let's join this large group and network!” Even more impressive was the outline of what is offered on the Thursday night events! I was so impressed I joined up and went to the first available meeting. So let me tell you the story of what I experienced there and how I was introduced to the Renalutus group and their programs. I'll tell you the good, the bad, the awesome and the ugly. It can be assumed that at any business related Meetup group (or any business group for that matter) will be some sort of a lead generator or have some service or product presented. Going in, I knew that at one point or another they would do a sales pitch so I was mentally prepared for that. What happened next is a true account of what happened (as best as I can remember). So please read the whole thing before making judgement because there were many unexpected turn of events … most of which were pleasant. I half expected the meeting to be at a office or something, but what I found was rather amazing. They have a rather large (~10,000sqft) office which is well decorated and well organized. A very good, calm yet exciting, professional setup. First thing they do is ask me to ‘check in'. I thought that was kind of weird, but ok. So I give them my name and I get a pretty sticker with my name on it. YEY! Upon entering the classroom area, yes they have an actual conference/classroom/seminar area that easily sits 200 or so, I hear the presenter talking about real estate and methods. I'm already impressed! There are four project screens, two on each side of the room. Very comfy indeed. AND! They even had comfy chairs. … Yes, I'm a sucker for comfy things. But this is were my excitement died. After settling in and finally paying attention to the presenter I noticed he was talking about the company and their products only. So I thought, ok … maybe they are just presenting their stuff first? Sadly I was wrong. I wasn't too happy with this. Why? Because this is what they promised on their Thursday meetup (according to their current Meetup.com group and Thursday event description):

Join us in Downers Grove for an overview of the real estate market and some of the current investment strategies that investors are using to make amazing profits on real estate deals right now. Topics to be covered; Short Sales, Foreclosures & REO's, Subject-To Purchases, Creative Financing strategies including Joint Ventures, Self-Directed IRA & 401K strategies (SDRP), and a host of other strategies that are being used in what most investors are considering the best market for investing we have seen in our lifetimes. Well wait a minute … Where during that 1.5 hour sales presentation did they ever cover anything other their own products? **Sadly … never. ** I was rather dismayed at, what appeared to be, to be a bait-n-switch type deal. I stayed to hear the whole deal, but I didn't enjoy the last half since I wasn't getting what I was promised on that Thursday night. I left shortly after the end of the presentation.

**IT didn't seem like a group I wanted to be part of. ** I went home, then wrote a rather harsh (yet truthful) review on the Meetup.com group review page. I wrote:

This meetup.com group is actually just to get you to their weekly sales pitches. Though the group is high energy and EVERYONE I talked who has joined their program loves it. They all seem to be very very knowledgeable people who are making seven figures … or are getting there very soon. So … you won't learn anything at the weekly meetups. Though if you want to find out what their sales stuff is about it might be worth checking out.

So is this place BS or not? NO!! It's a real, good place! Here's why: A few days after I posted that review I got a phone call late one night from some guy named ‘Bob'. Suffice it to say it was a rather awkward conversation at first because I had NO clue who Bob was. Bob explained who he was and what he did … and I still didn't exactly grasp who or what he was talking about :). Once he mentioned the Meetup group review I knew instantly what he was talking about and I quickly put two and two together. Mr. Bob on the phone was actually Bob Tierney, the owner of the meetup group and business owner of that large office!

Wow. Super cool … except I still wasn't too happy about that meeting. Though to be honest by the time he called I had already forgotten about the group and moved on. Though it really struck me, in a good way, that he called. Why? When he called he was very apologetic about my bad experience with the group and wanted to make it better. And when I say “very apologetic” I really mean it. It wasn't your standard corporate response of “oh here's a $5 gift card now go away”… nope. Bob was super awesome, very kind, very understanding and most impressive of all: he took personal responsibility for what happened. I mean … just wow. Where on earth do you see that type of commitment to excellence? In my book: this rarely happens. As I told Bob, “Bob, by calling me and being as awesome as you are … you are part of a very rare bread. A very high class, high quality person. Thank you for being awesome.” (or something along those lines) He invited me down to meet with him personally so we could talk about how he can fix the issue and even offered something really cool. I won't say what because I think that's a bit too personal and Bob might not like me telling people that. Suffice it to say: After meeting with Bob and seeing his whole organization I HAVE to say I am very impressed and am confident that he (and his company) strive for quality, top notch client service and most of all to make everyone happy. Once I met with Bob he explained what he believes happened and why it is so. It all made sense. He's a business man… not a internet marketer nor copywriter. To be 100% honest, and I whole-heartily believe him, it was an honest mistake. And everything was set right. I had the privilege to work with Bob now and in the future and experience the high quality people they are and the great work they do (and teach).

So what is Renatus, why am I mentioning it and how is it connected to this group?

Renatus is the parent company that provides the real estate training (and coaching) which Bob (and his impressive team) sells. After experiencing part of the training program and seeing the honestly and truthfulness of these guys (and gals) I must say I am truly impressed. They cover many many topics in so much detail it's almost absurd. They cover short sales, commercial properties, lease options, creative financing and much more. Sadly I don't have a preview for you guys yet so please wait for that. But having gotten the course myself, it is well worth it. So yes, they do try to sell stuff. It's part of the business plan but they are upfront and honest about it and I have yet to hear any BS, fluff or lies. Heck, they even brought in the President of a large retirement investment company (IRA's, 401k's and stuff) and holy cow … that man did NOT pull any punches. He told it how it is. He told every little secret he could fit into the time he had and he want all out on us. Two full days of so much real information it's staggering. Now, for me to say that … it's a feat in and of it-self. Readers of my blog know I have VERY harsh on people whom I see bullshiting others. I hate bullshit, fluff and crap work that most companies do. But not these days. 100% the real deal.

How does this tie back to the group? Simple said: because of the group I've already made many business contacts. Several of which have a good chance of turning into clients or Joint Venture partners! Not only that, this is a group filled with professionals and it's very easy to find someone to help you, answer your questions and it's the perfect place to get references for contract workers (like finding good CPA's, brokers, re-modelers and even investors!!!).

This is without a doubt an awesome group which I suggest you all join.

If you want to know more about this group, give me a call and I'll tell you all about it. If you are in the Chicago area I can take you with me to a awesome meeting. I'll even introduce you to the owner Bob! Give me a call!